PlainSpeak
04-15 09:11 PM
All I want is for you to recognize, that what your argument may lead to, is that the F1 may be altered to be dual-intent, rather than invalidating the F1 to GC path. It is just a matter of perspective. You must be able to see the matter from other points of view
And let's try to avoid bashing other immigrants. Bring up points that help us all, or at least a majority of us. For example, I have an argument that The below INS law is impossible to implement.
USCIS - I-Link Reference (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.f6da51a2342135be7e9d7a10e0dc91a0/?vgnextoid=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190a RCRD&CH=act)
NA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]
(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
It is impossible to carry out #3, because the numbers just aren't there to arrive at a definitive conclusion, that an immigrant visa is available to a person.
What arguments for or against this can you make?
Ok lets say that F1 is changed to a dual intent visa (Which i doubt will ever happen)
But lets say it happens then shouldn't they go to the end of the line
Is that not the same logic used by EB2 against EB3 Porters ?
What ever your logic the fact is currently F1 is NOT and immigrant intent visa and hence there is fraud currently. Now what happens in future is not deterministic but what is happening now is plain to see
And let's try to avoid bashing other immigrants. Bring up points that help us all, or at least a majority of us. For example, I have an argument that The below INS law is impossible to implement.
USCIS - I-Link Reference (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.f6da51a2342135be7e9d7a10e0dc91a0/?vgnextoid=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCR D&vgnextchannel=fa7e539dc4bed010VgnVCM1000000ecd190a RCRD&CH=act)
NA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
Sec. 245. [8 U.S.C. 1255]
(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification as a VAWA self-petitioner 1aa/ may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if
(1) the alien makes an application for such adjustment,
(2) the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and
(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed.
It is impossible to carry out #3, because the numbers just aren't there to arrive at a definitive conclusion, that an immigrant visa is available to a person.
What arguments for or against this can you make?
Ok lets say that F1 is changed to a dual intent visa (Which i doubt will ever happen)
But lets say it happens then shouldn't they go to the end of the line
Is that not the same logic used by EB2 against EB3 Porters ?
What ever your logic the fact is currently F1 is NOT and immigrant intent visa and hence there is fraud currently. Now what happens in future is not deterministic but what is happening now is plain to see
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kpchal2
08-12 12:45 AM
please refer the dates before posting such useless information. very ashamed to see some donors do this kind of mistake. unnecessarily misguiding the people. for a moment i lost hope. if this time, the uscis (after all the preadjudication numbers and all) makes this kind of stupid mistake then the USCIS should be ashamed of its existence and DHS should shove its head in some uselss thing.
Here is what ron gotcher has to say and zI think it makes sense.
don't have access to the raw data. I have spoken with personnel in the Visa Office and they have been unwilling to give out precise numbers. Rather, they have used phrases like "limited numbers" and "handful of numbers" to describe the situation.
I believe these assessments to be accurate. I base this belief on the certain knowledge that the CIS has more than enough pending China and India and India E2 cases to use up the remaining quota without having to advance cutoff dates at all.
If the CIS were processing enough cases to close out the quota, there would be absolutely need for the Visa Office to advance cutoff dates. Advancing cutoff dates if the CIS were processing enough cases to use up the quota would only result in more cases being filed than could be accommodated. There would be no point in doing this and, in fact, it would be contrary to established procedure. The only possible reason for advancing cutoff dates under present circumstances would be to allow consular posts to adjudicate more cases from their inventories.
Does this mean that the CIS is not going to approve any China or India E2 cases? Of course they will? They are a big agency and they are always adjudicating some cases. There is a difference, however, between adjudicating some cases and adjudicating a large number of cases. If they were adjudicating more than a few cases, or even likely to adjudicate more than a few cases, the VO would not have advanced cutoff dates. Doing so would have been positively harmful. The fact that VO did advance priority dates is the best evidence that the CIS is not processing enough cases to exhaust the quota.
The best evidence of this will be the establishment of the cutoff dates for the October Visa Bulletin. If the cutoff dates remain where they are, then that will be evidence that there are plenty of E2 numbers available for China and India. On the other hand, if cutoff dates for China and India E2 retrogress significantly in October, that will substantiate the position that there were only a few numbers (relatively speaking) available. If the cutoff dates retrogress, as the folks at the VO assure me they will, then that is conclusive evidence of the accuracy of this conclusion.
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Here is what ron gotcher has to say and zI think it makes sense.
don't have access to the raw data. I have spoken with personnel in the Visa Office and they have been unwilling to give out precise numbers. Rather, they have used phrases like "limited numbers" and "handful of numbers" to describe the situation.
I believe these assessments to be accurate. I base this belief on the certain knowledge that the CIS has more than enough pending China and India and India E2 cases to use up the remaining quota without having to advance cutoff dates at all.
If the CIS were processing enough cases to close out the quota, there would be absolutely need for the Visa Office to advance cutoff dates. Advancing cutoff dates if the CIS were processing enough cases to use up the quota would only result in more cases being filed than could be accommodated. There would be no point in doing this and, in fact, it would be contrary to established procedure. The only possible reason for advancing cutoff dates under present circumstances would be to allow consular posts to adjudicate more cases from their inventories.
Does this mean that the CIS is not going to approve any China or India E2 cases? Of course they will? They are a big agency and they are always adjudicating some cases. There is a difference, however, between adjudicating some cases and adjudicating a large number of cases. If they were adjudicating more than a few cases, or even likely to adjudicate more than a few cases, the VO would not have advanced cutoff dates. Doing so would have been positively harmful. The fact that VO did advance priority dates is the best evidence that the CIS is not processing enough cases to exhaust the quota.
The best evidence of this will be the establishment of the cutoff dates for the October Visa Bulletin. If the cutoff dates remain where they are, then that will be evidence that there are plenty of E2 numbers available for China and India. On the other hand, if cutoff dates for China and India E2 retrogress significantly in October, that will substantiate the position that there were only a few numbers (relatively speaking) available. If the cutoff dates retrogress, as the folks at the VO assure me they will, then that is conclusive evidence of the accuracy of this conclusion.
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sonia_sd
12-04 07:50 PM
Lets see, she
1. was here illegally
2. was convicted of shoplifting.
3. Drove without a license.
4. Had unpaid driving fines. (Bet she didnt have driving insurance either).
She had her delivery in a hospital which automatically assures adequate care for the child (paid for by the good citizens of Maricopa county, i should add).
As long as the pregnancy is uncomplicated, a woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled. In no way does that put her at risk of complications.
Yes it would have been humiliating, but whose fault is that?
Articles like this are published primarily to sway public opinion in favor of illegal aliens and amnesty. Judging by the responses I am impressed who effective they are.
From your above Post - "As long as the pregnancy is uncomplicated, a woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled. In no way does that put her at risk of complications."
No suprise if 12/21/2012 happens real, people like you among us, I think Mayans must have predicted people like you in this era.
1. was here illegally
2. was convicted of shoplifting.
3. Drove without a license.
4. Had unpaid driving fines. (Bet she didnt have driving insurance either).
She had her delivery in a hospital which automatically assures adequate care for the child (paid for by the good citizens of Maricopa county, i should add).
As long as the pregnancy is uncomplicated, a woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled. In no way does that put her at risk of complications.
Yes it would have been humiliating, but whose fault is that?
Articles like this are published primarily to sway public opinion in favor of illegal aliens and amnesty. Judging by the responses I am impressed who effective they are.
From your above Post - "As long as the pregnancy is uncomplicated, a woman is perfectly capable of delivering with a leg shackled. In no way does that put her at risk of complications."
No suprise if 12/21/2012 happens real, people like you among us, I think Mayans must have predicted people like you in this era.
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pappu
03-09 11:47 AM
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pappu
12-19 09:23 AM
Thank you everyone for being a part of this campaign. We are seeing lot of support from members and contributions are coming in. The drought is ending with some showers, buts lets continue the showers so that we can have a good crop next season. Pls. continue this drive so that we can achieve our target. I will be updating the numbers soon.
Thank you Anurakt for your previous contributions of $400 in the past months and this pledge for $1000. I am sure all our members have accepted your challange and will make sure to do their bit.
Thank you Anurakt for your previous contributions of $400 in the past months and this pledge for $1000. I am sure all our members have accepted your challange and will make sure to do their bit.
gc28262
08-25 03:45 PM
Can't you write to Ombudsman regarding this interview experience.
How can an IO be ignorant of the infamous july fiasco ?
How can an IO be ignorant of the infamous july fiasco ?
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needhelp!
11-21 02:37 PM
So, how did you do it BharatPremi?
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485Mbe4001
08-22 04:38 PM
I am EB3-I (pd 02 retrogressed) but was interested in this discussion so i emailed my lawyer about it. She said, historically the last month of the fiscal year has the most approvals as they try to clear as much as they can. You will see a lot more approvals from next week or sept 2nd week.
As you guys may already know. When a 485 file is with an adjudicating officer, h/she then is able to request a number via an online portal from the State Dept with the relevant case details.
I am hearing that for the last few days when EB2 India/China numbers are requested, instead of granted or not, the officers are getting a "pending" status report. They can't adjudicate without the number being approved from the State Dep't.
The same thing is not happening with ROW cases. Of course all of this is ridiculous and unfair but judging from last years events, I suppose we are to expect this. So it appears that the state Dep't might be doing some internal calculations. Not sure if they are trying to get info back from consular posts as well before they release the rest to the service centers.
However what is clear is that all is definitely not smooth with the communication at this time. Hopefully they will get it together and in the end not waste numbers. NSC was really slow off the mark earlier this month and those of us with old pending cases there, appear to have been the losers this rounds.
I'm praying they have numbers left over for next month. Based on what we are seeing they seem have gone into ramping down for Aug. already.
As you guys may already know. When a 485 file is with an adjudicating officer, h/she then is able to request a number via an online portal from the State Dept with the relevant case details.
I am hearing that for the last few days when EB2 India/China numbers are requested, instead of granted or not, the officers are getting a "pending" status report. They can't adjudicate without the number being approved from the State Dep't.
The same thing is not happening with ROW cases. Of course all of this is ridiculous and unfair but judging from last years events, I suppose we are to expect this. So it appears that the state Dep't might be doing some internal calculations. Not sure if they are trying to get info back from consular posts as well before they release the rest to the service centers.
However what is clear is that all is definitely not smooth with the communication at this time. Hopefully they will get it together and in the end not waste numbers. NSC was really slow off the mark earlier this month and those of us with old pending cases there, appear to have been the losers this rounds.
I'm praying they have numbers left over for next month. Based on what we are seeing they seem have gone into ramping down for Aug. already.
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BECsufferer
11-12 12:33 PM
First of all hiring someone on tourist visa was illegal, You had not thought about the safety of your child while doing it and without proper background check or reference checks hiring someone for nanny or anything like that involving children can be risky. There are instances of abuse which certainly will go un noticed.
From a legal perspective, Did u have a written contract for nanny, even if you sue the person you might not be able to recover anything and hiring an illegal may land you in trouble.
You can file for prosecution under child abuse and I am sure this case would be prosecuted legally, even though the care provider was un-licensed and illegal alien. Your proof however (video recording someone without consent) may be disputed.
But the bigger question is your admission of entering into contract with individual not permitted by law to engage into such contracts. This might be mis-denemor or something greater. Check your legal options first.
From a legal perspective, Did u have a written contract for nanny, even if you sue the person you might not be able to recover anything and hiring an illegal may land you in trouble.
You can file for prosecution under child abuse and I am sure this case would be prosecuted legally, even though the care provider was un-licensed and illegal alien. Your proof however (video recording someone without consent) may be disputed.
But the bigger question is your admission of entering into contract with individual not permitted by law to engage into such contracts. This might be mis-denemor or something greater. Check your legal options first.
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kumarc123
07-10 03:23 PM
Hey you guys - ask not what someone else can do for you but what you can do for someone else...didn't JFK say something like that ;)
You are ABSOLUTELY correct in saying that all the forums mention EB2 and very little attention is shed on EB3. I wonder why! Is it because EB2 recepients are more actively involved on IV? Or because EB3 recepients are quieter? Both these situations lend themselves to the bias towards EB2. And ultimately lead to one thing - more being done for EB2. I am EB2 and believe you me - I'm not complaining.
Sadly though, the number of EB3 applicants is many many times the number of EB2. So, there's something to be said for participation and having your voice heard. It is no wonder then that we as a group are dismal at having our collective voices heard - we don't participate like our lives depended on it. And in this case our entire lives depend on what's going on...
So, instead of bickering and blaming, why don't we awaken the giant that is EB3 India and China and have them participate as well...maybe we'll be able to kill many many birds (country limits, DC rallies, contributions to IV and lobbying activities, phone call campaigns, letter campaigns...) with just one stone....just thinking out loud...that's all...
Any ideas?
Read your paragraph and you will understand who is complaining, the focus here is to get together as one whole EB community.
You are ABSOLUTELY correct in saying that all the forums mention EB2 and very little attention is shed on EB3. I wonder why! Is it because EB2 recepients are more actively involved on IV? Or because EB3 recepients are quieter? Both these situations lend themselves to the bias towards EB2. And ultimately lead to one thing - more being done for EB2. I am EB2 and believe you me - I'm not complaining.
Sadly though, the number of EB3 applicants is many many times the number of EB2. So, there's something to be said for participation and having your voice heard. It is no wonder then that we as a group are dismal at having our collective voices heard - we don't participate like our lives depended on it. And in this case our entire lives depend on what's going on...
So, instead of bickering and blaming, why don't we awaken the giant that is EB3 India and China and have them participate as well...maybe we'll be able to kill many many birds (country limits, DC rallies, contributions to IV and lobbying activities, phone call campaigns, letter campaigns...) with just one stone....just thinking out loud...that's all...
Any ideas?
Read your paragraph and you will understand who is complaining, the focus here is to get together as one whole EB community.
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ItIsNotFunny
03-10 10:12 AM
can't they join two tables or data to find out that information ? Why they want to hide from us ?
Thats what my question is. I think they just replied to cough up $5K from us.
This is just delaying techniques by USCIS. I think they are assuming that no one is going to pay this much amount and they can hide the BS they are doing!
OR
They have exactly the same data in the same format we need. Now this is becoming like cheating by government.
Thats what my question is. I think they just replied to cough up $5K from us.
This is just delaying techniques by USCIS. I think they are assuming that no one is going to pay this much amount and they can hide the BS they are doing!
OR
They have exactly the same data in the same format we need. Now this is becoming like cheating by government.
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k3GC
04-09 05:47 PM
However, in the event that USCIS received more than 20,000 cases that would qualify for this exemption on April 2 and April 3, USCIS will first conduct a computer-generated radom lottery to select 20,000 filings for processing, and those filings that are not selected will be subject to the FY 2008 cap and must be considered in that random selection process as well.
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11-16 03:28 PM
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mayitbesoon
09-05 05:14 PM
If HR 5882 bill is passed, it is good that we have more visa numbers. But the issue of random processing without considering priority dates is frustrating to people with older PDs. Lot of people here are eligible to get GCs with the current cutoff dates, but still are being left out. I think, this is another very important issue to be fight for by the IV core team and members.
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rsdang
02-26 05:37 PM
ALLOW EVERYONE TO FILE I485 SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
You people already have filed 485 and have EAD. EAD gives you so much freedom . It is as good as a green card.
What about people who are less fortunate and cannot file II485. We need to allow everyone to be on the same page first and enjoy EAD freedom.
That should be our priority before any country limits or this thread action item
Guys - Feel free to agree or disagree its just one opnion...
I think the priority should be
1. Get country quota out
2. Get Pending EADs sorted per this threads idea
3. Get ammendment to let I485 filing be done after labor been pending for say 6 months...
My 2 cents...
You people already have filed 485 and have EAD. EAD gives you so much freedom . It is as good as a green card.
What about people who are less fortunate and cannot file II485. We need to allow everyone to be on the same page first and enjoy EAD freedom.
That should be our priority before any country limits or this thread action item
Guys - Feel free to agree or disagree its just one opnion...
I think the priority should be
1. Get country quota out
2. Get Pending EADs sorted per this threads idea
3. Get ammendment to let I485 filing be done after labor been pending for say 6 months...
My 2 cents...
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lccleared
12-19 09:39 PM
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stevestamps
07-17 08:41 PM
Thank you IV Core Team
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coolmanasip
08-22 03:53 PM
If this is true then it rests all the doubts about some other notion that visa numbers are over.....
http://www..com/discussion-forums/i485-1/183578301/last-page/
http://www..com/discussion-forums/i485-1/183578301/last-page/
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485Mbe4001
08-22 04:38 PM
I am EB3-I (pd 02 retrogressed) but was interested in this discussion so i emailed my lawyer about it. She said, historically the last month of the fiscal year has the most approvals as they try to clear as much as they can. You will see a lot more approvals from next week or sept 2nd week.
As you guys may already know. When a 485 file is with an adjudicating officer, h/she then is able to request a number via an online portal from the State Dept with the relevant case details.
I am hearing that for the last few days when EB2 India/China numbers are requested, instead of granted or not, the officers are getting a "pending" status report. They can't adjudicate without the number being approved from the State Dep't.
The same thing is not happening with ROW cases. Of course all of this is ridiculous and unfair but judging from last years events, I suppose we are to expect this. So it appears that the state Dep't might be doing some internal calculations. Not sure if they are trying to get info back from consular posts as well before they release the rest to the service centers.
However what is clear is that all is definitely not smooth with the communication at this time. Hopefully they will get it together and in the end not waste numbers. NSC was really slow off the mark earlier this month and those of us with old pending cases there, appear to have been the losers this rounds.
I'm praying they have numbers left over for next month. Based on what we are seeing they seem have gone into ramping down for Aug. already.
As you guys may already know. When a 485 file is with an adjudicating officer, h/she then is able to request a number via an online portal from the State Dept with the relevant case details.
I am hearing that for the last few days when EB2 India/China numbers are requested, instead of granted or not, the officers are getting a "pending" status report. They can't adjudicate without the number being approved from the State Dep't.
The same thing is not happening with ROW cases. Of course all of this is ridiculous and unfair but judging from last years events, I suppose we are to expect this. So it appears that the state Dep't might be doing some internal calculations. Not sure if they are trying to get info back from consular posts as well before they release the rest to the service centers.
However what is clear is that all is definitely not smooth with the communication at this time. Hopefully they will get it together and in the end not waste numbers. NSC was really slow off the mark earlier this month and those of us with old pending cases there, appear to have been the losers this rounds.
I'm praying they have numbers left over for next month. Based on what we are seeing they seem have gone into ramping down for Aug. already.
chanduy9
07-07 10:17 PM
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers
You can see all the details in the first page.
4 short to 100
Thanks,
Chandra.
You can see all the details in the first page.
4 short to 100
Thanks,
Chandra.
jetflyer
08-11 04:30 PM
as usual after seeing these date like everybody else I also started thinking when will be my turn?
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:
PD Year PD Month Count
2005 Mar 1
2005 Apr 24
2005 May 133
2005 Jun 535
2005 July 794
2005 Aug 1313
2005 Sep 1316
2005 Oct 1212
2005 Nov 1541
2005 Dec 1771
2006 Jan 1788
2006 Feb 1729
2006 Mar 2224
2006 Apr 1635
2006 May 1876
2006 Jun 1902
2006 July 1574
2006 Aug 1317
2006 Sep 963
I did some digging in DHS data and here is the list with number of PERM Approvals, these are for India only and includes EB2 + EB3:
PD Year PD Month Count
2005 Mar 1
2005 Apr 24
2005 May 133
2005 Jun 535
2005 July 794
2005 Aug 1313
2005 Sep 1316
2005 Oct 1212
2005 Nov 1541
2005 Dec 1771
2006 Jan 1788
2006 Feb 1729
2006 Mar 2224
2006 Apr 1635
2006 May 1876
2006 Jun 1902
2006 July 1574
2006 Aug 1317
2006 Sep 963
